This is issues funny 79 Steve Macintosh and I guess his chance Haiti's warning coordination meteorologist National Weather Service welcome to issue Tony seventeenth. Hello Steve how are now many years we've been and is now every recounts if I don't at least once and I look forward to it every single year. The weather doesn't change that much but I think we need to re educate people just like you know from time to time we're sure what's going on. A few days ago actor Bill Paxton die right now he started a film called twister. And it said that human influence at least a few young people to export the field of meet urology do you have any comment on that. It's funny Syria influenced just a few could pick up a few 1010. Of thousands. I tell you that that was a cult movie. And I think it really brought about. Is that hobby of storm chasing you know there were a few diehards out there that just love meteorologist in the weather and and chase storms around but once that movie came out. I think that hordes came out and I always say origin of that way that. It really him in part of that storm chaser in them want it also did it also helped. The meter elves of the National Weather Service goes more people out on the road looking at the storms. Gave us more information. To make better warning decisions. Who okay. Well one thing in the film itself I thought it was kind of a stinker but it you know exaggerated their innings it's Hollywood it's Hollywood you're gonna exaggerate you know. You look at movies is entertainment. You know some my favorite movies gladiator tombstones. Or today by the book an exact absolutely not. So are legitimate visas entertainment was an an entertaining movie absolutely. Like say got a few few young people hooked in there they sure did not you because by that time to time the movie came out pure old salts was an old. Now as we said you know I've talked on the show several times over the years about severe weather. We do it around the time of severe weather awareness week which is. The week of all of us next week yeah this coming week. Does suit National Weather Service do awareness week all over the country. We do the weeks will vary depending on what part of the country you're and you know of course further south are probably going to be a little bit earlier. And energy go further north in the cooler states that will be a little bit later. But we do have prepared Newsweek's. Across the whole country and the National Weather Service kind of taking things into different ways to or actually. Having than seasonal preparedness week's nationally so we're coming up on spring prepared Newsweek which is next week. Well hearing Kansas we all work together as as a weather enterprise via the media the National Weather Service local emergency management. And we all basically. Get together due to putter and although the weather hazards and and how people in states say just to keep me informed so it keeps it you know back in the back of their minds so if they need to go to shelter. They know exactly what to do without really having to think twice about it I know the ten year and Cedric county we have programs going on they're in there. There they're season right now opened on their programs and yes do you do one. When an awareness we too busy for you but usually pretty busy educating. Pretty much year round don't you no doubt in you know we usually we get out and give about a 130 presentations a year to the citizens across central and southeast Kansas. The busiest time of courses of February and march. We're out pretty much every evening. Durn it we now promoting what would cost grand fury on the planes. They ask the worm and whether identification. Program and also safety. Tell folks what to look for in this guys to whom you speak to me disease and we'll speak to anybody there would like to come out you know we have this season and a storm spotters would go out and Spock stormed O'Keefe folks say which Storm Chasers tanned. And we also encourage folks. To come out the general public. The more that they can learn about the weather the happier I am because that means or more knowledgeable. And there make better decisions look goes back up still don't know how many. How many of these do you do any year in the how many people do you think you reached chance well we we train about. 3600 people a year. Over the course of a 130 presentations but the storm fury on the planes which is our most intense training which runs about an hour 45 minutes to two hours. Will do about thirty to 35 of those in usually more around 3500 folks in attendance we average around under Bert talks. You think and well I have mixed feelings about it did you think your efforts. May have saved a life for two. I definitely is it too dramatic pretty is that do you think that's that's true I really do think it's true. And one of the things I've said throughout my whole career. It's a fire can influence one person to make the right decision to save her life I've done my job. And I say that every single year in and to be honest with you are really think that happens because I know when I go and do my training. Yeah I'm trying to do the technical aspects of storm identification for the spotters or they can report accurately but also take it and spin it towards somebody travel and up. Interstate 35 for the turnpike. Recognize some of the cloud features to know which storm is more severe than others. In a (%expletive) keep him from driving into that storm I've done my job and I really think that happens. To give. You were in unison a couple of levels yes they're very technical in some ways that and also to. Oh absolutely guy like me stumbles and is as wears a free coffee in oil and Internet you know take care about right yes it's Jim presentation Jim Juan. You know I've got the same topic and I kind of take that fork in the road. And don't start with one group that didn't more advanced storm spotters mom and then also say here's how it affects the rest of so it's it's almost like an double presentation and want to locate. Now we always discuss the dangers of specific storms kinds of storms whenever we talk like this. And it's. We always begins anyway so why not talk about tornadoes whose you have to grow attached. That's 800 pound gorilla ever loyalists and all about tornadoes are bullish talk about Torino all so whom tell us about dabbling. How many people actually Emmy last year he was and some numbers on this you know and we generally average about a hundred tornadoes a year. Here in stating Kansas. Over about the last ten years or so I think last year we ran ran around a hundred and and modern thirteen tornadoes across the whole state which you really think about it. That's truly a small number considering the thousands of thunderstorms we have across the state. But that's order already thinks about. And the odds of somebody actually seeing on any given years actually pretty swollen but the rights and figure business. Few years since I've seen on how about how do you says when it comes tornado zone. Damage injuries lives lost last year had to do net. You know we we did very well last year you know most of the tornadoes that occurred were over open country they did have some pretty significant tornadoes. Out near Dodge City we had some up near Salina one over Greenland. And for the 26 counties that we serve anyway. Uh oh I can't think of a single injury and there were no fatalities due to grant. And I think that's a testament to the citizens of Kansas. You know a lot of us when the sirens go off for the bells and whistles are sounding on our weather radios are you all are talking about it. What do people do that run outside and they look at. They have to feel that they have to experience it themselves but each one of us has a line in the sand. Sums a little bit further cloture to storm and others. The basically when that line gets crossed. Folks in Kansas nowhere to go and they seek shelter when that line of cross and her comfort level as is not very high. When it comes in number of tornadoes and so forth how did Kansas compared to other states into only sixteen. How are we number one. I don't know that we're number one generally never say Texas so much bigger they usually get a it is usually get a lot more arm it and tell you when you have a 10013. Tornadoes in a year. Can't remember the exact number beyond which speak. It ranks up there are very high and I can't think of another state that may have had more except possibly taxes. We always you know everybody talked about the was there a laws indoors in the front so you know over the course of time taxes generally has more tornadoes and anybody else it's about twice as big as or don't we were there for I checked out. They talk about let's talk a little bit about them. Modern warming methods. And you know it's they're so different now there's so many different ways just. So you've been in business since 95. For you being here which is a bit easier in which dozens 95 got into the national with a serves in 93 OK so the technology has changed enormously. In the tigers. Tell us about some of the stuff you're working with on almost all computers now writer everything is pretty much computerized today you know even the weather radio. Witches and you know been around for ever which are used to going to. Just like you would fuel cars in record turn it into a microphone in their order cart. Basically we push the button issue the warning and it goes through. You know text to voice and and we have a computer voice that reads off the warnings and everything's done automatically what you used to take its maybe 57. Minutes. Can now be done in a matter of seconds. So that right there shape hospital at halftime a whole lot of time and when your don't want tornadoes that's almost an eternity. But you go beyond that I think the weather coverage. But you guys here in the media is just phenomenal I think we've seen a major increase in television coverage on whether. And I think the radio coverage on weather is just phenomenal you're actually putting folks out on the streets and telling them what's happening in the area. And you're up to date I mean every information that we put our egos are relying immediately. That's huge chance you know I would take him folks behind the scenes just a little bit because I didn't know a lot of is still a couple of years ago but. The way that you work with television stations. Primarily. Talking about the fact that they have certain computer programs and you guys just if you do a lot of work for them don't. They're pretty much pushed some buttons and hear the pumps. Well you know I don't know everything works pretty much news and we have marks in India where the mass disseminate your information but they don't want to do pretty quick and and a graphics and immediately oh web solution we push the button there computer technology everything is in to their systems. You know it runs automatically just like it does here you know yet crawls on TV get the maps that they pop. And then they use their expertise to interpret what they're saying on the radar. To help keeps folks safe. One of the newest technologies though is what we call wireless emergency alerts which you're familiar with DA yes. And that's basically every Smartphone has that capability. In no matter where you are if you get a tornado warning flash flood warnings. I fear on the coast to hurt came morning stream when morning if you were an apology on that we draw the highest risk area your phone Muller who. Okay no matter where you're at in the country blacks have a special app for that then no that is on almost every single brand new Smartphone it's joint effort between. The National Weather Service FEMA federal emergency management association. In your cellphone provider OK so but it's not on the wanna have a home or have the rotary dial on my phone no not. Just rotary dial it he's still got a runner yeah. And I'd get a kick in May I still have a landline no oh Soto back it. Hey listen you in all said and done and all the computers and in Indian high tech stuff. How much you rely on it eyeballs out there and spotters and for all. I couldn't tell you how much we appreciate them and utilize them we have warning philosophy here in which expects that to Arthur. So what we do as we look at the radar and we interpret the radar what signals is that giving us. We look at the environment. And all the different clues in the atmosphere in and around storms. What are those telling us and then we listened to the spotters. What are they actually seen in we're also getting to the point now where we can watch what they are seeing through live streaming. Over the Internet that's so any time those two radar environment Hersh barter points towards potential hazard. We pulled the trigger and issued a warrant so that's barter their purse from watching it. As equal way. As the other two they're extremely important and one other thing before we move on and that is though the accuracy that you do doubts severe thunderstorm warnings. They're triggered by what fifty mile per hour wind and the quarter sized hail land or Eva. I'm you can. You can nation those suckers down from my backyard of my neighbors we're getting it out pretty specific yet we're getting to that point the resolution is extremely good. We have new dual polarization radar which you know the beams go out horizontally and vertically we see the particles a little bit better. The technology just improving our screens like you said. You're listening to issues Tony seventeen on the Entercom radio stations and I guess just chance Hayes. Warning coordination. Meteorologist National Weather Service saw about the affirmative minute about the food he did steal for measuring tornadoes hop. How is it degrading determined for an individual storm I think most feels like. Well it was a big and is that why it's almost be a five right he can't tell that way you knows it's Wednesday isn't it. Well yes and basically it's determined by the amount of damage that went afterward you can't just more to write you know a few years somebody. Five on television say that's an EF four tornado you don't know for sure until you actually get out there and that's one of the things that we international observers do. Is after the fact we go out and one determined was a truly tornado and damage. Or was it strong straight line wind damage and that's the biggest issue that we have to deal with as the damage can be very similar. The hockey Intel. How can lead to damage and patterned. Did to have where the stuff lands or how Brian Seattle for the things OK and then how the structures in the trees yeah have been damaged. You know straight home wins David trees and one fashion and verses that of a tornado. And same way with the damage pattern wonderful stream all in wonder arson and the other what kind of fan out maybe even a wraparound below that. But what we do is we actually go mountain we have what we called damage indicators. It could be I'm home can be trees it can be a barn could be a strip mall. And we look at the amount of damage that occurs to those are indicators and that gives us take a good gauge as to what the wind speeds were. And then based off of that damage in the inferred wind speeds we can get that rating EF five biggest island yes in excess of how much and my property than 200 mile two miles for them get up to new scale. Brought it back down to anything greater than 200 miles an hour considered and unify and one of them one or two biggest tornado disasters in Kansas history. A ball boy Greenburg Kansas is not not that long ago not that long ago. He had the which Diane over Torre don't have from point 69 you want. Yet the tornado that moved across our recount and hit Hester and Matt march 13. 1990s. You had Topeka tornado back in this on the 6666. I think something like that that my brother was living and speak at the time yeah. That was they haven't but he has matters and stories Richard and those are some of the London mourns a most people remember why I like to talk about joining in these. Talk about it a a big tornado. Green super. Yet say thing like a mile and a half across and won the sabres to Abraham that it was over two miles across yeah we take me about 1520 minutes tour across the extent that the I have that yeah hole in all and the whole community well. Okay even one night to think about it we have those top story culture of ourselves yeah it has a rotating updraft called them as a cyclone. And when you get tornadoes that large it's almost like that hole up drafts it's on the ground or while they are one up around north Aurora Nebraska it was about four miles wide. You're kidding now. Why all of a whole storm Freeman set owner. Let's talk about the dangers of big thunderstorms in the warnings you issue for them to just to tell me about the good old thunderstorm. You know it's one of those things that. Like you said the technology's getting better. And the good old thunderstorm basically of rising air goes both freezing level the water goes above freezing levels Kirch to freeze. And depending on how strong those winds are actually rising into the storm or determine how big health stone can get. And then once he gets up to Corzine's one inch in diameter. Will issue a warning prior to that will issue what we call a significant weather alert. And the lower in severe thunderstorms you know sixty mile an hour winds are 58 election earlier money trail. We just tell folks to get in. Out from outdoors in shelter now and then heard all the trash cans yeah and he let the trash cans go or bring him up time down. But what we're doing now is we're actually. To an impact base warnings as the health stones get bigger and the winds get stronger we will actually put tags in our warnings. And what we're trying to get folks to do you give higher wins. Further to the middle of the house or the structure you need to get don't go away from those windows summing yet hurricane force winds 75 miles an hour. Do you wanna be sit in front of a window in a recliner watching television and. I'll tell you a chance of doing forty plus years of covering storms in Wichita. Of course you've got to storm to come up from the move mostly from the southwest going to the northeast it's when they back door when they come in from. Northwest to southeast that's when you get those straight line winds and that can really be scary if you're out there oh absolute suggests these squall line comes through it is scary it's scary yeah it's funny scary just come in and just looking at now it's ominous. And then all of a sudden you see this on them ordinary and it went like whole week. Let's Dallas talk about lightning that's because it can be very very dangers. Is it even more dangerous than other forms of storms everything except for flash flooding okay I mean if you really want to boil it down. Every thunderstorm has the potential to hurt or kill somebody. Every thunderstorm every thunderstorm that is what causes thunder lightening. And so lightning. Can injured person and it came kills somebody and that's why we tell folks. As soon as you hear thunder you need to get inside well and we we very we're very sensitive to that and our storm coverage. If they're bowl games gone on. You know and you see electing five miles away or whatever you better get to get to shelter DP and it is shelter absolutely go to the car. You're gonna be safe for your car. Get into a building. Did get away from the bleachers and the ball he had is there any statistics on that as far as people who have been injured guild in our area or anything like that are. You know the numbers actually are fairly low is as good here in Kansas the majority of our injuries of counties have a tendency to go towards the flooding. Bill I can just talk about dangers of adding fees he likes it that's turnaround on realm right Tara absolutely you know it's one of those things we say don't follow the herd. And you look Demi needs him parties and don't follow hurt because a lot of times you'll have a water covered road you'll see one person driving process. Well today make it what do you think the rest them back their candidate. If that happens via truck that's jacked up got a powerful engine in my may get through. But and smaller car isn't gonna do that then they're gonna get submerged and could get swept away or po folks are gonna have to my rescue I confessed he's not done that timer treatment at that. And I had to take off my shoes who played out you know. It's one of those things for me. I have to think about safety because I love to fish a lot of the gulf I'll have to be outdoors I have to think about I mean yeah and I travel a lot I think about driving across water current drugs that I siblings say. How with a look on the headlines of the newspaper in net inflow to meteorologist that trains about whether safety. Is injured or killed. I don't think in Nigeria citing advice about it. Well and chance what kind of severe storm season are you expecting this year concerning way to know for you know it's very difficult to know for me your a year. A lot of things that we look at loses how. Much moisture there was during the winter months because it sets up an area of green that's. And where their green line sets you know greener grass version Browner Rasner is words stores have a tendency to fire up. So that's one of the things that we try and look at you know it was fairly dry for much of the wonderment it was extremely moist early on in London fall. I mean you know we had flooding in August and September when a lot of water than in May carried over to were actually waiting to see where that goes. But a lot of it is gone gut feeling and we've already started. You know we've already issued a couple of tornado warnings we've had hail storms. That produced hail stones up a golf ball size are ready yet several tornadoes up in Iowa Missouri I think in Illinois now. I and it's got to go through on its bright room in busy here what do you tell our listing audience about of their preparation for storms obviously took them. You know. Their preparation and is one they need to be prepared period ago they need to be not all about yet yet they just need to be knowledgeable in no win the storms are possible. If they know when the storm that are going to be possible. They've already got all their safety measures in their head already. And I just don't want them to get caught off guard all they've got to do is go to whether or not have much which draw. Which is our website we'll tell them and Carter possible listened to the radio listen to you guys you to on the forecast every single day. From watched television those folks will tell him when the storms are going to be just don't get caught off guard pay a little bit of attention. And then once the storms roll and let the intuition kick in local media and we are very conscious of this and the but we try to be helpful as we Camden. It's a team effort between you guys and us and social media all of these bilateral absolutely and I and that's one of the things I hope the folks truly understand is. The partnerships that we have for urged. Between the weather service the radio stations of the television stations that the newspapers. You know Internet world. There's just so much information and and it's consistent were all providing the same message. So the folks don't get confused in that weather and prizes just Phnom councilman at the end of the day though we can give you all the watches mornings and and updates it that are humanly possible the end of the day go open your eyes and ears and be ready case. It's going to be a Q now it is individuals out there it is yes and we talk about personal responsibility all the time. And it ultimately he said it is up to them all right well it's going to be a busy you think it's going to be a busy storm season if it is I'm sure that we're gonna keep you posted here on our radio stations and almost none chance. They still haven't found newness all of it. You've been added for awhile so I added a wild not quite as long as you grabbed. You know I get a few more years under my belt I gotta give in all right Melissa thanks so much for spending some time with this and riverbend we'll probably have you back next year both of those are still around. And do this kid is always nice to get to work out just remind people of what severe weather is all about our guest a chance case. Warning coordination. Meteorologist National Weather Service in Wichita then that's all. For this edition of issues Tony seventeen will be back next week thank you for listing I Steve Macintosh.